On our 65th show we feature an interview with Distinguished Professor of Law at Rutgers University Gary Francione. Professor Francione has been teaching animal rights and the law for more than 20 years, and he was the first academic to teach animal rights theory in an American law school. He is well known throughout the animal protection movement for his criticism of animal welfare law and the property status of nonhuman animals, and for his abolitionist theory of animal rights. We talk to him about his abolitionist position, his opposition to California's Proposition 2, his thoughts on successful vegan outreach, and more. In the news we talk about the Massachusetts Ballot Initiative on Greyhound Racing, Ellen Degeneres going Vegan, new research on Mad Cow Disease, and the effects of the vegan diet on Diabetes.